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Today I spoke with my Rivian Guide after reconfiguring to the Adventure Package after Explorer was discontinued. What I learned is that the camp kitchen, gear shuttle and tent have no estimated delivery dates and therefore those orders have no delivery dates. So I removed them from my order and expect to hear from my Guide in 1-2 months or receive a delivery date for this year by end of summer. The new IRA law is creating a lot of confusion around which vehicles will actually be eligible for the federal tax credit next year, so I'm trying to take delivery this year. I hope this information is helpful. My Guide said I could get the camp kitchen aftermarket and they would install it with the gear shuttle. Also the black floor mats aren't available until October but they will ship without them. Note that the yellow Rivian logo will not be on the mats as per my Guide. Good luck!
 

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Sorry to break the bad news, but with regards to the new IRS Tax credits.. If you didn't sign the commitment contract that Rivian offered a couple of weeks ago, your purchase will be bound by the new tax rules that went into effect (immediately) when the President signed them into law, regardless of when you take possession.
 

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Sorry to break the bad news, but with regards to the new IRS Tax credits.. If you didn't sign the commitment contract that Rivian offered a couple of weeks ago, your purchase will be bound by the new tax rules that went into effect (immediately) when the President signed them into law, regardless of when you take possession.
Wow. I missed that and my Guide didn't mention it. I think this is going to be a mess come tax time.
 

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Wow. I missed that and my Guide didn't mention it. I think this is going to be a mess come tax time.
My understanding is that different parts of the new law come in at different times. The final assembly in North America was immediate (bye bye Kia and Hyundai ) but the income and price limits are the 1st of Jan. I would suggest you look into this in detail or consult a tax specialist.

 

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Also, it does not matter if you had placed an order with a configuration for the Gear Tunnel shuttle and Camp Kitchen, when it comes to delivery time, Rivian will remove both from your build and send you the truck. Ask me how I know! I did confirm with Rivian that if you ordered the Gear Tunnel shuttle and the Camp Kitchen Rivian knows this and (when the suppliers) can produce the parts, you would be scheduled to get them at some point in the near future at the price you agreed upon at your build configuration. I also confirmed that the price for the Camp Kitchen INCLUDEDS Rivian installation at a service center.
 

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The tent is nothing special and you can buy the same RTT (or a better one) almost anywhere. The kitchen is pointless for camping, probably a cool (but crazy $$$$) tailgate novelty. You can buy a better, lighter, more functional kitchen from Stoic, mountain summit, GSI, Cabalas, Coleman,…

The iKamper Aioks is a pretty sweet camp kitchen, and there really isn’t anything like it. I have a buddy with one and I’ll probably end up with one.
 

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Not sure why the kitchen is “pointless” for camping. I for one can’t wait to have a gas grill to cook on, some nice dishes to eat from, a nice sink to clean everything up with and an awesome, easy place to stow it all away instantly.
Now….. the price?!? I agree with you. It is purely a novelty purchase and far from a bargain, but a purchase I am excited to make nonetheless.

The tent on the other hand……. Agree. Buy afterwards for a fraction of the cost and get the same thing…. And quicker!
 

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Not sure why the kitchen is “pointless” for camping. I for one can’t wait to have a gas grill to cook on, some nice dishes to eat from, a nice sink to clean everything up with and an awesome, easy place to stow it all away instantly.
Now….. the price?!? I agree with you. It is purely a novelty purchase and far from a bargain, but a purchase I am excited to make nonetheless.

The tent on the other hand……. Agree. Buy afterwards for a fraction of the cost and get the same thing…. And quicker!
For it being pointless for camping. Well cost, you can get a better more versatile camp kitchen for $200-$700 Takes up way to much space and weight capacity. You can’t use it separate from the truck. Also uses battery (it is 1.5kw) to cook/heat water which many places people could be camping/overlanding will be a big issue. Could easily use 10% truck battery cooking 3 meals for a group of 4 if you aren’t careful. Also it should have included a fridge/freezer.

so: expensive, not versatile, will take up ~15-20% of your payload, takes up almost all of the gear tunnel, will use considerable range. A novelty not well thought out to use camping.
 

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For it being pointless for camping. Well cost,

so: expensive, not versatile, will take up ~15-20% of your payload, takes up almost all of the gear tunnel, will use considerable range. A novelty not well thought out to use camping.
I guess that's my point. Just because its overpriced and you could purchase a less expensive configuration, albeit not nearly as cool or original, is not the same thing as being "useless". I will 100% use my camp kitchen a ton, so can't really call it useless in my opinion.

Oddly enough, I feel the same way about the Yakima tent as you do about the kitchen. If I decide to install an above-ground tent, it'll be through REI and Yakima as they sell the exact same thing for 1/2 the price. Camp Kitchen is 100% one-of-a-kind Rivian and I for one can't wait to get it installed.

FWIW, it sounds like I won't be able to tell you "Told you so" or "You were right" for quite some time as I'm being told that the camp kitchen has no current delivery timeline. I'm starting my buying process tomorrow, so 100% sure I'm getting a Rivian without a camp kitchen to start with.
 

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I guess that's my point. Just because its overpriced and you could purchase a less expensive configuration, albeit not nearly as cool or original, is not the same thing as being "useless". I will 100% use my camp kitchen a ton, so can't really call it useless in my opinion.

Oddly enough, I feel the same way about the Yakima tent as you do about the kitchen. If I decide to install an above-ground tent, it'll be through REI and Yakima as they sell the exact same thing for 1/2 the price. Camp Kitchen is 100% one-of-a-kind Rivian and I for one can't wait to get it installed.

FWIW, it sounds like I won't be able to tell you "Told you so" or "You were right" for quite some time as I'm being told that the camp kitchen has no current delivery timeline. I'm starting my buying process tomorrow, so 100% sure I'm getting a Rivian without a camp kitchen to start with.
I think the kitchen will be a “wow” tailgate accessory and get use from those that buy it. I just think it is entirely impractical and counterproductive for camping, overlanding, and outside of urban America. I have a bunch of ideas of how it could be made outdoor practical, so RJ/team if you are reading this reach out :)

As for Roof top tents. I have one now (hard shell, iKamper mini) had a soft Tepui for about 5 years. We camp at least 60 nights a year and the RTT is my 4th string set up. Only use the RTT 4 to 10 nights a year. I know dozens of people that have bought RTTs and never used them or sold them rather quickly. Our primary set up is a travel trailer. A tie for 2nd is a base camp tent (~30 year old north face basecamp) or 4 person (mtn hardware) both with various cook/fridge/kitchen set ups. 3rd is bikepack/backpacking set up. Use two small 1-2 person tents. Last is the RTT. Only use it when in thick brown bear or wolf country in the fall when they are really looking for food

Why? First off they are heavy. When you camp as much as we do you realize weight matters for everything. Camp kitchen+RTT, that is ~30% of your payload. Unless you have a nice block and tackle and tall garage door/ceiling taking them on and off the truck sucks. Both my teens and I are very fit and it is no fun to manually install and remove the tent. Even with my block and tackle system it still takes 30min and two of us. Next, it tent moves with the truck. Need to move the truck? everything has to come out, then come back in. Need to leave the area? Everything hast to come out, loaded up, unloaded, then put back in…. Getting in and out is more disruptive for everyone in the tent, one person gets up at night to pee, everyone will be up. On that note, ladders in the middle of the night gets old. Also they don’t sleep as well in hot and cold. Can’t use cots, limited sleep pad options…. Next, dogs if you plan on dogs in the vestibule or tent think about dog+ladder. Last cost, You can get a super nice ground tent for 50-80% less then any RTT.

I recommend to all rent one before you buy one. RTTs May look cool but they are not for everyone.
 

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I guess that's my point. Just because its overpriced and you could purchase a less expensive configuration, albeit not nearly as cool or original, is not the same thing as being "useless". I will 100% use my camp kitchen a ton, so can't really call it useless in my opinion.

Oddly enough, I feel the same way about the Yakima tent as you do about the kitchen. If I decide to install an above-ground tent, it'll be through REI and Yakima as they sell the exact same thing for 1/2 the price. Camp Kitchen is 100% one-of-a-kind Rivian and I for one can't wait to get it installed.

FWIW, it sounds like I won't be able to tell you "Told you so" or "You were right" for quite some time as I'm being told that the camp kitchen has no current delivery timeline. I'm starting my buying process tomorrow, so 100% sure I'm getting a Rivian without a camp kitchen to start with.
Yes I was told there is no estimated delivery date for the camp kitchen, gear shuttle or tent.
 
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