Would agree with competition is good comment, but there is no aspect of anything in the Kia / Hyundai world that is really any form of serious off road capabilities. While both would be EV SUV's it is a little bit of apples and oranges from a capabilities perspective and also the price is going to be the other factor with Rivian commanding a premium. I do think the more EV's that do surface will have siphon off some of the Rivian demand for the buyers that are not quite as interested in the offroad / adventure specs that the Rivian provides for the money. The one I am going to be interested in when it is announced will be the Bronco EV. That will be a serious contender to R1S.