Out Of Spec Reviews maxed out their Rivian R1T's carrying capacity to find out how range is impacted.
How Payload Affects Range in The Rivian R1T
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Slightly disappointed that he acknowledges there’s an aero penalty but, it doesn’t seem he ran it with just an empty container to eliminate the aero factor.
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I like Kyle's style and very much respect his reviews and their mix of objectivity and admitted subjectivity, but this one is a bit dumb. Of course weight doesn't matter if you never accelerate or decelerate the vehicle. Once you have it up to speed at 70mph there's no penalty whatsoever for the payloads. So yeah the range reduction is quite obviously due to the increased drag at those speeds and not due to the increased weight. Had he driven that thing around town he would have noticed a marked reduction, but then again who cares about range in town?
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Summary:
Maxing out the payload caused a 7% loss in range, but he didn't account for aerodynamics - the load was sticking out well above the roof of the cab. For reference, aerodynamic drag caused by crossbars mounted on the roof (with NO load on them) can easily lead to a 10% range decrease, so apparently the full payload had no discernible effect on the R1T range.
Like @sciencegeek says, he should have done this test with an empty container vs. with a full container because then the aerodynamic drag of the empty and aerodynamic drag of the full would have been the same so we would have gotten a real answer based on payload alone. Also, like @sciencegeek says, once you're up to speed and not accelerating/decelerating that extra mass, the payload really doesn't matter - range in "city" driving will be affected way more than in "highway" driving because of all the stop and go.
Maxing out the payload caused a 7% loss in range, but he didn't account for aerodynamics - the load was sticking out well above the roof of the cab. For reference, aerodynamic drag caused by crossbars mounted on the roof (with NO load on them) can easily lead to a 10% range decrease, so apparently the full payload had no discernible effect on the R1T range.
Like @sciencegeek says, he should have done this test with an empty container vs. with a full container because then the aerodynamic drag of the empty and aerodynamic drag of the full would have been the same so we would have gotten a real answer based on payload alone. Also, like @sciencegeek says, once you're up to speed and not accelerating/decelerating that extra mass, the payload really doesn't matter - range in "city" driving will be affected way more than in "highway" driving because of all the stop and go.
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You mean that thing from 8 months ago? Rivian R1T’s first real-world towing test shows 62%...
There were problems with they way they calculated things, IIRC.
There were problems with they way they calculated things, IIRC.
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Here's some feedback from someone that towed a 4k lbs trailer.
"Had to tow this trailer back for one of our contractors today. I believe it’s about 4000 pounds, couple observations Tows better than my 1500 dodge eco diesel, reminds me more of a 2500 on handling and ride.
Admittedly it’s not a super heavy trailer and I was going pretty slow and I didn’t pull it very far 8 miles but with those disclaimers I was surprised to get 2.15 mi./kW
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"Had to tow this trailer back for one of our contractors today. I believe it’s about 4000 pounds, couple observations Tows better than my 1500 dodge eco diesel, reminds me more of a 2500 on handling and ride.
Admittedly it’s not a super heavy trailer and I was going pretty slow and I didn’t pull it very far 8 miles but with those disclaimers I was surprised to get 2.15 mi./kW
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