R1S Blue/BM 22" wheel - San Fran delivery - April/May window - Deposit Dec 2018 (1,254 days ago) - Guide Contact April 11, signed purchase agreement April 14 - nothing since. My April/My window was still good when I visited the plant in early May??
More 🐎 In May, we reached out to some of you, via survey and Guide conversations, to see if you were interested in reconfiguring your preorder to take delivery sooner. The volume and enthusiasm of the responses told us it was a path worth exploring. We tested this approach with customers across a spectrum of preorder dates to ensure it would be valuable, and now that we’re ready to launch this new online experience, we’ll no longer need to send individual email surveys to additional customers. Introducing the R1 Shop This month, we’ll introduce the R1 Shop, an online experience that gives invited preorder holders the opportunity to swap their current R1 configuration* for a new configuration with expected delivery in the next 6-8 weeks or sooner. The first shop invitations will go out to some of our earliest R1T preorder holders this week, and we’ll continue to add invites on a rolling basis weighing factors like preorder date, current configuration, and vehicle availability. Once invited, you'll have access to the R1 Shop for one week, to give as many of you who are ready to make the shift the chance to do so. Rivian will continue to build to order, however, there are often opportunities to more quickly receive your vehicle if you have flexibility in your configuration. The R1 Shop has been created to allow you to look at vehicles that are available due to last-minute order changes from other customers as well as our intentional use of batching for some of our more popular combinations. Of course, if you prefer to get exactly the configuration you preordered, this process won’t impact you. Refreshed Delivery Window Estimates This week, we’ll be updating delivery window estimates for some preorder holders. This first round will prioritize two groups of customers: Preorder holders with updated delivery window estimates in 2022 A 2022 window means purchase day is in sight! There’s a lot to coordinate, from vehicle trade-ins to quotes for insurance and financing. Your window will let you know when it’s time to start thinking through the details. Preorder holders who no longer have delivery window estimates in 2022 As we’ve continued to ramp production, we’ve seen some customers’ delivery windows move up while others push back. This includes much anticipated updates to many of our R1S preorder holders. For those who’d previously received an estimated window in 2022 but will now be later than that, we want you to have this update so that you can adjust your plans accordingly. For all other preorder holders, we plan to share updated delivery window estimates on a rolling basis through the remainder of the year. We hope all of this adds some clarity on when to expect your Rivian. We’re so excited for you to get behind the wheel, and we know that you are, too. If you have any questions, please reach out. Tony Caravano Head of Rivian Customer Engagement |
R1S Blue/BM 22" wheel - San Fran delivery - April/May window - Deposit Dec 2018 (1,254 days ago) - Guide Contact April 11, signed purchase agreement April 14 - nothing since. My April/My window was still good when I visited the plant in early May??I think it's super vague line in the email that says there will be another R1s update/delay - but nothing more specific than that.
What is your config/Location? Was your delivery timeline June/July? I'm forest green, black mountain and they've said June/July for me.
My guide could no longer give me any idea of date and told me to lean on the new estimate coming - worrying... I inadvertently sent her a text back I meant to delete as she has nothing to do with this but Ill share it with you.Charlie - you made me do the math - 1,279 days since that deposit way back in 2018. I sure hope they don't screw the earliest deposit holders like us with a revised delivery date next year, especially after signing the purchase agreement this April. I'll post here whatever I learn from my Guide - I have an email out to them.
That’s what I’m reading:So - R1S is pushed till 2023?
Any word from your guide?Deposit as of Dec. 4, 2018 - definitely one of the first deposit holders for R1S
Received email stating delivery window April-May 2022
Guide contacted me mid-April
Confirmed my build on first call with guide and website configurator later updated - Launch Edition El Cap Granite and BM interior
Subsequent emails with guide indicated delivery slippage to mid-June
THEN TODAY THIS EMAIL FROM CARAVANO
I reached out to my guide for clarity and will update when I hear something
Most likely will give up my deposit if delivery is pushed to 2023
There are many R1S early preorder customers who already signed the buyers agreement, have our guides, and were given delivery dates of May. I don't think the issue for many are the delays, I think it's the misinformation. I tell my friends all the time, that I wish they didn't originally reach out to start the guide contact, buying agreement signing, and providing estimated delivery date. I was pretty chill waiting and watching the company grow. But then Rivian reached out and created a false sense of excitement. After doing this, they went silent for 2 months with all of the early preorder users I'm connected with. I recognize that one of their problems is they have to play the publicly traded game now. The information they provide is regulated and can manipulate the stock price. However, they now are playing the balance customer expectations and stock holder expectations. I personally appreciate the over communicate method vs this vague (say something without saying something approach). As far as your statement about CRUCIAL to the company's survival, that's just not completely true. Rivian already has the cash on hand to build and rollout their full Atlanta facility, the new R2, and maintain current operational growth for 3 years. And that's if they don't make a single dollar over that period of time. They are sitting at $17 billion on hand, the Atlanta facility is going to cost $5 billion, their annual operating budget is $4 billion. Plus, they are reaching the level where they are too big to fail. Rivian's future is extremely bright. YES, the root of your statement is correct. They do have to produce as many vehicles as possible this year to keep investor confidence high and further improve their outlook, but their isn't a crucial survival situation anymore. With that said, yes focusing on the R1T in limited configurations will increase their output, but they do have to balance that against brand perception. If consumers start losing faith, confidence, fanhood, the brand will start to erode and that is harder to recover than finding more money to drive a strong brand amongst consumers.1) I thought R1S was already pushed out to 2023 for everyone? I'm confused why so many replies are angry here. Wonder how many R1S holders were told they had 2022 deliveries coming sooner than '23. 2) They need to BEAT the 25,000 production forecast they issued to Wall Street. This is CRUCIAL for the company's survival long-term (if they need to raise additional capital for R2 launch). So to upset a few R1S holders to reconfigure the color options/etc. and batch produce more R1Ts with fewer configurations in the hopes of beating 25k units this year with more production, then I AM ALL FOR IT!!
There is another forum that had a poll for delivery windows. There were a couple of hundred responses in that poll that had a 2 month window in 22 between March and September for the R1S.1) I thought R1S was already pushed out to 2023 for everyone? I'm confused why so many replies are angry here. Wonder how many R1S holders were told they had 2022 deliveries coming sooner than '23. 2) They need to BEAT the 25,000 production forecast they issued to Wall Street. This is CRUCIAL for the company's survival long-term (if they need to raise additional capital for R2 launch). So to upset a few R1S holders to reconfigure the color options/etc. and batch produce more R1Ts with fewer configurations in the hopes of beating 25k units this year with more production, then I AM ALL FOR IT!!
I feel like this issue has more to do with Ford than the supply chain. That Bronco process was a mess from day 1.Edit: I didn't see the second page of this thread before posting. I still mean what I say from an overall perspective but your guys' experiences seem very frustrating indeed. I don't mean to dismiss.
I don't mean to be dismissive of the frustration but hey it's just communication, not actual substance. At least they're delivering some vehicles and trying hard to stay ahead of the challenges.
Just for entertainment here's another example of the shitshow that is global supply chain bottlenecks fighting it out with high demand:
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Buyers Abandoning Ford Bronco Orders: Thousands Piling Up in Detroit Lots
Unfortunately, thousands of Ford Broncos are piling up in lots outside of Detroit as Ford, and Bronco buyers, wait for the microchip shortage to ease.www.motorbiscuit.com
Thanks Tony. Your test process worked great for me. I was happy to change my configuration to one that was available. I feel honored and lucky to be in the sampling that was offered the opportunity to reduce my delivery time. Got my Launch Green Launch Edition last week!
More 🐎
In May, we reached out to some of you, via survey and Guide conversations, to see if you were interested in reconfiguring your preorder to take delivery sooner. The volume and enthusiasm of the responses told us it was a path worth exploring. We tested this approach with customers across a spectrum of preorder dates to ensure it would be valuable, and now that we’re ready to launch this new online experience, we’ll no longer need to send individual email surveys to additional customers.
Introducing the R1 Shop
This month, we’ll introduce the R1 Shop, an online experience that gives invited preorder holders the opportunity to swap their current R1 configuration* for a new configuration with expected delivery in the next 6-8 weeks or sooner.
The first shop invitations will go out to some of our earliest R1T preorder holders this week, and we’ll continue to add invites on a rolling basis weighing factors like preorder date, current configuration, and vehicle availability. Once invited, you'll have access to the R1 Shop for one week, to give as many of you who are ready to make the shift the chance to do so.
Rivian will continue to build to order, however, there are often opportunities to more quickly receive your vehicle if you have flexibility in your configuration. The R1 Shop has been created to allow you to look at vehicles that are available due to last-minute order changes from other customers as well as our intentional use of batching for some of our more popular combinations. Of course, if you prefer to get exactly the configuration you preordered, this process won’t impact you.
Refreshed Delivery Window Estimates
This week, we’ll be updating delivery window estimates for some preorder holders. This first round will prioritize two groups of customers:
Preorder holders with updated delivery window estimates in 2022
A 2022 window means purchase day is in sight! There’s a lot to coordinate, from vehicle trade-ins to quotes for insurance and financing. Your window will let you know when it’s time to start thinking through the details.
Preorder holders who no longer have delivery window estimates in 2022
As we’ve continued to ramp production, we’ve seen some customers’ delivery windows move up while others push back. This includes much anticipated updates to many of our R1S preorder holders. For those who’d previously received an estimated window in 2022 but will now be later than that, we want you to have this update so that you can adjust your plans accordingly.
For all other preorder holders, we plan to share updated delivery window estimates on a rolling basis through the remainder of the year.
We hope all of this adds some clarity on when to expect your Rivian. We’re so excited for you to get behind the wheel, and we know that you are, too.
If you have any questions, please reach out.
Tony Caravano
Head of Rivian Customer Engagement
See my post. I don't think anyone expected or expects them to deliver on time. I am a Tesla owner and definitely understand the issues that go along with production and the issues that go along with "beta" vehicles. I joked with my guide to tell RJ I'm good with a buggy/imperfect EV vehicle, "I've been driving Tesla's for years". Tesla just pushed their truck by over a year earlier this year and they are not a startup anymore. As I said in my post, what Rivian is doing is nothing short of amazing. I'm an ultimate fan boy and have been for a long time. Before most people even knew Rivian existed. I think it's the communications that they could grow. The development is going to take however long it takes. That's the reality of the situation. I don't think anyone at Rivian is sitting around doing nothing. I think they are all working extremely long frustrating hours. But it doesn't make the human natural emotions of disappointment any different knowing all this. The long time preorder holders have a right to have emotional responses to disappointing news. I'm not going to call out anyone for having an emotional reaction. It does suck when things change. Again, for me, it's the whole concept of communication or lack of in some cases. I'm the type of person that bad news is better than no news. I just like being in the know. Move towards the under promise, over deliver, over communicate, etc. I also get that in some cases, they just aren't going to know. But even that can be communicated efficiently. "Here is what we do know; here is what we don't know; here is when we will update you again.". At one point RJ had started regular update emails, but those faded away also.So .... you all watch Tesla delay their cars for years and years and talk about their 'production hell' and so forth, over and over, and saw Volkswagen and everybody else fall behind on EV production, add a pandemic and a global supply chain shortage - but you did expect Rivian (a brand new company and production startup) to deliver everything on time? That must take a special kind of naivety .... just saying. Be realistic, take a spec you can get, or wait. Or cancel, and buy something else better (oh wait, there is nothing)....
Tesla also let people jump the line for the Model 3 as orders cancelled. The difference was, the people who jumped were long time owners and loyalists.P.S. Tesla preorder holders of the 3 were complaining just as much when it was delayed for years. It's not like they just gave them a complete pass.
Honestly, as far as rewarding delays. I think Rivian has done WAY more than they had too. They are giving everyone a 95k-100k vehicle for 75k-80k. That is way more than a debit card or some free fast charging. I have no complaints in this area. I just want more clear and frequent communications.Tesla also let people jump the line for the Model 3 as orders cancelled. The difference was, the people who jumped were long time owners and loyalists.
It’s not the fact that there are delays. It’s how the delays and customer relationship is handled. Tesla rewarded its adopters. Ford is surprising their customers with positive surprises (more power, more range, free adapters, etc) Rivians surprises are all negative, vague, or nonexistent.
They need to hire someone from Chik-Fil-A to fix their customer service management dept.
Edit: As an example of how Ford is handling the delays:
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If they had done that from the start, I’d give them full credit for great customer service and rewarding delays. But it was a reaction to customers and cancellations. They didn’t do it proactively. Which means if we didn’t react, if we didn’t cancel in droves, that “reward” may have never happened.Honestly, as far as rewarding delays. I think Rivian has done WAY more than they had too. They are giving everyone a 95k-100k vehicle for 75k-80k. That is way more than a debit card or some free fast charging. I have no complaints in this area. I just want more clear and frequent communications.
Tesla also let people jump the line for the Model 3 as orders cancelled. The difference was, the people who jumped were long time owners and loyalists.
It’s not the fact that there are delays. It’s how the delays and customer relationship is handled. Tesla rewarded its adopters. Ford is surprising their customers with positive surprises (more power, more range, free adapters, etc) Rivians surprises are all negative, vague, or nonexistent.
They need to hire someone from Chik-Fil-A to fix their customer service management dept.
Edit: As an example of how Ford is handling the delays:
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I'm not sure I agree, I had 3 Tesla's, and more are on order / reserved. Plus solar. Never got any decent communication from Tesla, have not gotten a 'customer satisfaction call' in my life. But guess who calls me? Rivian technical support, and my Rivian 'Guide', to check on any questions. within 10 days of me taking delivery of my R1T. With a phone number to a human - try that with Tesla. Further: Tesla moves delivery dates like crazy! Bu months and months. And: Do you really think they will honor the original truck price for all pre-orders that were placed, including mine (2), for the CyberTruck?Tesla also let people jump the line for the Model 3 as orders cancelled. The difference was, the people who jumped were long time owners and loyalists.
It’s not the fact that there are delays. It’s how the delays and customer relationship is handled. Tesla rewarded its adopters. Ford is surprising their customers with positive surprises (more power, more range, free adapters, etc) Rivians surprises are all negative, vague, or nonexistent.
They need to hire someone from Chik-Fil-A to fix their customer service management dept.
Edit: As an example of how Ford is handling the delays:
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I should have clarified that part is specific to the TM3 launch. When they launched shortly after I was given the opportunity to take delivery of a TM3P even though I didn’t have a reservation due to an order cancellation. It would have been my 4th Tesla that year and they explained they wanted to give me first shot because of that.I'm not sure I agree, I had 3 Tesla's, and more are on order / reserved. Plus solar. Never got any decent communication from Tesla, have not gotten a 'customer satisfaction call' in my life. But guess who calls me? Rivian technical support, and my Rivian 'Guide', to check on any questions. within 10 days of me taking delivery of my R1T. With a phone number to a human - try that with Tesla. Further: Tesla moves delivery dates like crazy! Bu months and months. And: Do you really think they will honor the original truck price for all pre-orders that were placed, including mine (2), for the CyberTruck?