[Cactus]

Searching this ROF, I found this link

Keys and Locks

To any fellow R1T or R1S buyers that enjoy adventures that include getting wet (surfers, kayakers, etc.)... Does anybody know how entry keying / access will work? I have one old school vehicle that does not have a chipped key, and one with keyless entry. In both cases I can lock either vehicle...

www.rivianownersforum.com

about key fobs. Anyone have any updates including functionality (e.g. auto windows up or down, frunk release, cell phone option etc)? It's difficult to see detail in the pics.

 

[wicked2112]

Contact Customer Service via phone or chat. That's my best advice until people start getting vehicles in hand.

 

[ERivTruck]

Don't know 100% for sure, but I would suspect that like most modern day cars, if the FOB is on your person and you pull the door handles, the vehicle locks. Similarly if you have the FOB on you and you touch the door handles in a certain spot, the doors lock.

 

[Mr. Gee]

The earlier fob photo had frunk/rear gate buttons and lock/unlock.

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[dleewla]

The earlier fob photo had frunk/rear gate buttons and lock/unlock.

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My guess is they keep the FOB simple, basically to lock/unlock, alarm and allow you to turn on the car. Mostly likely, it will require their mobile app to do more complex functions, like most manufacturers are doing these days.

One big bummer is that they are only including one key FOB. $80K vehicle with one key FOB? I know that seems to be the trend but then at least also provide a simple card key (like Tesla) for use with valets or when you want to go out on a "adventure" without having to take your key or phone.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

My guess is they keep the FOB simple, basically to lock/unlock, alarm and allow you to turn on the car. Mostly likely, it will require their mobile app to do more complex functions, like most manufacturers are doing these days.

One big bummer is that they are only including one key FOB. $80K vehicle with one key FOB? I know that seems to be the trend but then at least also provide a simple card key (like Tesla) for use with valets or when you want to go out on a "adventure" without having to take your key or phone.

There is no need to "remote start" an EV. At most, you may want to "precondition" the cabin -- which can be done via a phone app.

I'll be disappointed if there's only one FOB. If they go that route, then they need to at least give us the option of buying a second/third as an accessory.

 

[dleewla]

There is no need to "remote start" an EV. At most, you may want to "precondition" the cabin -- which can be done via a phone app.

I'll be disappointed if there's only one FOB. If they go that route, then they need to at least give us the option of buying a second/third as an accessory.

Ah yes, I meant "precondition" like youre saying. Things like opening windows, turning on heat/cool, lights, summon, remote rock crawl. Can you imagine a feature where you stand outside your truck and remote control it from outside? The ultimate R/C vehicle! One can dream right?

 

[Cactus]

Only ONE key fob?! That's unheard of. I have never purchased a car with less than 2 keys. If just one, I bet they say the second key is your phone, which isn't cool.
Rivian: Please don't nickel and dime us by including only one key fob. We are going to pay a lot for the vehicle.

I do hope it will have more functionality such as window up and down, frunk open, etc.

 

[Mr. Gee]

"fob: a tab on a key ring." It's a normal word, there's no reason to do all-caps

 

[Wildabeest]

"fob: a tab on a key ring." It's a normal word, there's no reason to do all-caps

FOB: Forward Operating Base to our military friends out there 👍

 

[lefkonj]

One FOB, now that is just stupid. 2 should be a mandatory thing. One for each driver in the household.

 

[dleewla]

"fob: a tab on a key ring." It's a normal word, there's no reason to do all-caps

who cares how its spelled... sheesh

 

[Mr. Gee]

As an aside, "fob" and "FOB" are spelled exactly the same. It's the use of all-caps that's goofy.

 

[koersontap]

One FOB, now that is just stupid. 2 should be a mandatory thing. One for each driver in the household.

For you, maybe. Is my dog gonna drive it though? I don't need a second, aside from having one as a spare just sitting in a drawer for emergencies (which the app makes obsolete). I'm happy enough with one, and applaud the flexibility of choosing how many we actually need, rather than paying for expensive fobs that I don't need.

 

[dleewla]

Here's the response I got from Rivian CS:

"The R1 does include one key fob, and you’ll have access to the vehicle through our app. No worries though - our vehicles are designed for adventure, so we’ll have additional options to operate the R1 wherever your journey leads and whatever activity you’re doing!"

When I asked what "additional options" are, they said they would share that closer to deliveries. Which I'm beginning to suspect means they just don't know or its not finalized yet. If they aren't ready with a small detail like the fob, what else isn't ready?

 

[lefkonj]

For you, maybe. Is my dog gonna drive it though? I don't need a second, aside from having one as a spare just sitting in a drawer for emergencies (which the app makes obsolete). I'm happy enough with one, and applaud the flexibility of choosing how many we actually need, rather than paying for expensive fobs that I don't need.

With 3 drivers in my house and the average American household has 3.9 drivers in it. Having a single physical key, for now, seems odd. I have never had a phone based key so not sure how that will be or behave.

As an aside, "fob" and "FOB" are spelled exactly the same. It's the use of all-caps that's goofy.

The use of all-caps doesn't have the autocorrect nightmare, sorry.

 

[Wildabeest]

Given the size of those fobs, including two may exceed the maximum payload of the truck. 😂

 

[MIBryanH]

If you can unlock by using the bluetooth or NFC feature on the phone, that's an acceptable alternative to having a fob. I would worry about an adventure vehicle having to be unlocked using a cell signal from the app (like Tesla currently does). What happens if you're in a no-cell signal area (like in the middle of the mountains) and you can't open the vehicle because of no cell signal?

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

If you can unlock by using the bluetooth of NFC feature on the phone, that's an acceptable alternative to having a fob. I would worry about an adventure vehicle having to be unlocked using a cell signal from the app (like Tesla currently does). What happens if you're in a no-cell signal area (like in the middle of the mountains) and you can't open the vehicle because of no cell signal?

I thought the Model 3/Y used bluetooth when using a phone as a key?

 

[SANZCO2]

I thought the Model 3/Y used bluetooth when using a phone as a key?

That might be a separate triggering mechanism.

The Model S you can only use the app and it requires an internet connection for the app and the vehicle.