I'm actually not opposed to people selling them. However, I'm generally opposed to entities coming in and buying up every whatever it is they can get their hands on to force a shortage for individuals (for example, bot networks buying up concert tickets faster than individuals can).
Yes, I would be absolutely ok with that, just like if he walked up and switched places with someone already in line. No skin off my back. Now, if he was able to buy a spot that wasn’t someone else’s, thereby pushing my position back, then we’d have an issue.
I have not considered the possibility that this would lead to someone(investors/bots/scalpers) buying all the LE reservations (of which there is a limited number) early on, thereby denying an opportunity for others to do it at the same price. This might be a very valid point, and likely what Rivian was intending to avoid through paragraph 14. Perhaps there might be a system where there is only a limited number of reservations per household.
Not sure how switching places is different from buying someone else’s place. It’s effectively the same thing, you’re just paying an additional premium for the better seat. Much like if you and I both have tickets to a show/concert, but yours is in a much better section that’s otherwise sold out, and I’m paying you extra for your ticket.
“Scalping” I would define as reselling an asset you own at a cost adjusted for the market (typically an increased cost). Unless you have insider information or early access to an asset that others don’t have, I don’t see a problem with it.
Yeah, my point is more that we clearly have someone who is trying to purchase several for what appears to be resell purposes. And that does in a way impact individuals who have had a long standing interest in Rivian as they're being forced to compete with a company on price, artificially inflating the transfer cost.
Hey Adam, I ordered an R1T and an R1S. It looks like they both will be arriving in March. I am willing to discuss possibly selling the truck. You can reach me at [email protected]
How so? I am not trying to be dense, I genuinely don’t understand how we, as reservation holders, have to compete with a company on price, or his would thus affect the transfer cost? The price Rivian charges you won’t change based on someone else buying another person’s reservation.
I will email you thank you.
People that choose to keep their reservation and will now be stuck with their current delivery date, because only a fool would outright cancel their LE reservation at this point, will certainly be affected.
I see where you’re coming from, but this is predicated on the assumption that someone ahead of you would cancel their reservation. Whether that’s a reasonable assumption or not, I suppose reasonable minds could differ.
You're not being dense. It'd be individuals who do want to buy an earlier reservation. There are plenty of people who "got in line" months (years?) ago who for whatever reason didn't get a launch edition that rather than competing against one another (which seems fair), have to compete against an entity trying to buy up anything they can get. For people sitting pat, no impact, I agree. I don't mind the spirit of individuals who have had interest in the company purchasing reservations spots and keeping spots that would otherwise be cancelled from being wasted. I'm just not a fan of a company (or third party for a company) saying "sell us all the reservations for $10k". That's basically analogous to the earlier example I had in my mind.
