Max Pack Dual Motor R1T deliveries start in low volumes in Spring 2023
There was a post of an excerpt from Customer Support on that topic on another Rivian forum. While you can change from the quad to the dual-motor without penalty, per CS, "that change will subject you the price increases." The rep went on to say that you should keep your quad-motor reservation in place if you want to preserve the old pricing.I wonder if they'll offer old MAX reservation holders the option to change from Quad to Dual motor, without a price increase. Should save them money, allow the buyer to get their truck sooner, and net a vehicle with the overall best range to boot.
I also wonder if the MAX pack is 800v. Maybe re-engineering the existing Quad motor system to 800v is the reason for its delay, while the freshly engineered Dual setup is ready to go.
All that being said, could really care less if it's '23 or '24 or even '25, as long as they don't "cancel" the MAX pack to avoid old reservation holders or go bankrupt before shipping'em
There was a post of an excerpt from Customer Support on that topic on another Rivian forum. While you can change from the quad to the dual-motor without penalty, per CS, "that change will subject you the price increases." The rep went on to say that you should keep your quad-motor reservation in place if you want to preserve the old pricing.
I'm OK with that, and with what will certainly be substantial further delay, as long as Rivian actually produces and delivers the quad-motor Max configuration. I suspect however that the plan is to offer the Max paired only with the dual-motor, a new configuration not previously offered and kill off the quad-motor Max. While this kind of screws existing Max reservation holders, it is highly beneficial for Rivian's production and bottom lines. I would expect that to soften the blow, Max reservations holders would still be able to change to a Long Range R1T or R1S at the old price however. Of course, that will mean an even longer wait as you will go to (or close to) the end of the delivery line.
There was a Tony C email and on-line interview in which he promised more information on the Max "within weeks", so we may shortly know more.
While there is certainly a chance for the Max in 2024, I suspect that the odds actually favor a further delay, perhaps even a lengthy one.Odds are that'll happen in 2024...
Now hold on. In the email that Rivian sent out they indicated that you can get the MaxPack but only with the DUAL motor R1T starting in mid-2023. Unless they qualify this further and indicate that they're actually using a smaller pack based on the range difference between the dual vs the quad - which they haven't - then why should I presume they've changed anything to do with the MaxPack? I haven't seen or read anything to say they're reworking the MaxPack other than pure speculation in various forums without anything qualifying it. So, where did you hear this that validates the claims of a modified MaxPack?While there is certainly a chance for the Max in 2024, I suspect that the odds actually favor a further delay, perhaps even a lengthy one.
At this point, it's pretty clear that the original Max design has been abandoned, but what unclear is how far along Rivian is with the new design. My suspicion is that the Max is a fairly low priority for Rivian, possibly because of its relatively low demand (if we believe Rivian, the Max is about 22% of R1T orders.)
On the other hand, demand for a less expensive but still highly capable BEV is very high, and Rivian is clearly racing to fill that demand with the dual-motor. Given that Rivian has already stated the the dual-motor will be available before the Max, it's pretty clear - and understandable - where the company's priorities are.
Given the lesser demand and likely lower priority of the R1T Max, I think we should expect that its development will be prolonged and its production delayed. It should not be a surprise to see delivery of the Max pushed beyond 2024 to 2025 or even further.
I’m not really sure why you think it’s appropriate to insult people who don’t fit your definition of whatever “Marlboro Man“ fantasy is playing in your head?I think Rivian will deliver when they have sufficient battery supply. In the meanwhile they will deliver to city slickers (Californians) with ev chargers placed every 20 miles who pose as "adventure seekers" 30-80 miles from home on the weekends. 😄
California is indeed a rather large place, states are big on the left coast so there's lots of middle of nowhere to go out and find for City Sliders and Marlboro Men alike.I’m not really sure why you think it’s appropriate to insult people who don’t fit your definition of whatever “Marlboro Man“ fantasy is playing in your head?