[sethgodin]

I'm on the list to get my pickup in March/April, they say.

But they're all out of 21" wheels and I need your help in responding to the guide.

He said that they can offer a 22 inch or a 20 inch.

And he said that EITHER of them will decrease my range by 5 to 10%, which I found startling.

From what I can tell reading the threads here, the 22 inch rides better on streets (I'm not going to go off road, but I will be driving in snow).

Should I wait (for who knows how long, they won't tell me) or get the 22 inch wheels (and take the range hit) or is there no real range hit?

Help me understand if you have a sec...

Thanks

 

[mgc0216]

There is a R1T over in Bend (oregon) that put ATs on 22" rims, my point being you can always swap to 22" snow tires if the all seasons don't cut the mustard.

 

[sethgodin]

thanks. does it make sense that a bigger wheel and a smaller wheel would both impact range so much?

 

[mgc0216]

I can't explain the why behind any of it, but, I'm not surprised by it either since neither wheel is the "optimal" size.

 

[SANZCO2]

thanks. does it make sense that a bigger wheel and a smaller wheel would both impact range so much?

I have the 22s configured for my R1S, I’m expecting a less than 10% hit on range with those. The added advantage is there will be a lot more 20 and 22 tires available if they need to be replaced.

Choice is yours, I would do the 22s given that choice, especially since on the LE there is no up charge for them.

 

[sciencegeek]

thanks. does it make sense that a bigger wheel and a smaller wheel would both impact range so much?

I don't know the weight of the wheels but the smaller wheel configuration has all-terrain tires, which makes a difference. If smaller wheels are proportionately lighter they should have better efficiency.

 

[Jarateng]

I'm on the list to get my pickup in March/April, they say.

But they're all out of 21" wheels and I need your help in responding to the guide.

He said that they can offer a 22 inch or a 20 inch.

And he said that EITHER of them will decrease my range by 5 to 10%, which I found startling.

From what I can tell reading the threads here, the 22 inch rides better on streets (I'm not going to go off road, but I will be driving in snow).

Should I wait (for who knows how long, they won't tell me) or get the 22 inch wheels (and take the range hit) or is there no real range hit?

Help me understand if you have a sec...

Thanks

Are they charging you the extra $ for the 22's ? I believe there was an additional cost for those? If not, why not go with that and get the other options aftermarket? I personally like the 22's for their looks but couldn't justify paying extra especially given the hit on range. Being in Canada I'm used to switching wheels during the winter anyway

 

[O. horridus]

There is no additional cost for the 20's or the 22's IF you have a Launch Edition reservation. A delivery window of March/April implies a Launch Edition, because those will be the first to ship.

Rivian has stated that the 20's have a 10-15% range loss, and the 22's have a 5-10% range loss. The standard 21's were designed for the best EPA range estimate - if you make any modifications to the vehicle like adding crossbars or adding weight (with the off-road package) you will have range loss. That's not startling - that's well within what is expected IMO because that's exactly what happens with ICE vehicles.

 

[O. horridus]

Oh, and congratulations! It's good to see that they're moving to finalize the pre-orders that have a March/April delivery window - that implies they're on track to meet these delivery estimates!

 

[Ogooberdgoober]

I'm jealous. I too have a March/April 2022 delivery window but have not heard from a Guide so far. Hopefully, that will change soon.

I would go with 22". Can always swap for aftermarket wheels if the range loss is significant. Personally, I would not give Rivian any reason to delay my delivery.

 

[Bgrable]

Maybe it’s just me, but how can they be out of their “standard” (if not weird) wheel size before deliveries even start ramping up? Is covid delaying 21” wheel production now?

 

[Mattedfred]

Maybe it’s just me, but how can they be out of their “standard” (if not weird) wheel size before deliveries even start ramping up? Is covid delaying 21” wheel production now?

Perhaps you answered your own question. While that wheel size may be standard for Rivian, a tiny manufacturer in the grand scheme, it is far from standard within the world of wheel manufacturing. Given supply chain constraints one must prioritize in order to survive.

 

[Tanquen]

You'll have a better ride with the smaller rim and I'm guessing it's also probably a tiny bit more efficient, but not the 5 and 10% that they're talking about. Bigger rims can look cool and all but every car I've had with larger rims has had a bumpy rumbly ride and are way easier to damage on curbs and whatnot.

 

[RITVT]

20's will be far better if you are dealing with snow

 

[SANZCO2]

You'll have a better ride with the smaller rim and I'm guessing it's also probably a tiny bit more efficient, but not the 5 and 10% that they're talking about. Bigger rims can look cool and all but every car I've had with larger rims has had a bumpy rumbly ride and are way easier to damage on curbs and whatnot.

I think you are referring to large rims with low profile tires. The 22s are not low profile, the sidewalls are over 5 inches, actually bigger than the sidewalls on my Jeep GC with 20 inch rims that rides fine.

 

[Tanquen]

I think you are referring to large rims with low profile tires. The 22s are not low profile, the sidewalls are over 5 inches, actually bigger than the sidewalls on my Jeep GC with 20 inch rims that rides fine.

It's still lower unless you're saying they're putting different sized diameter tires on the truck? If not, I'd rather have the smaller rim and more tire.

 

[bwoodahl]

thanks. does it make sense that a bigger wheel and a smaller wheel would both impact range so much?

The range reduction of the 20” is due to increased aero drag and the range reduction of the 22” is due to increased rotational inertia.

 

[ColeAK]

The range reduction of the 20” is due to increased aero drag and the range reduction of the 22” is due to increased rotational inertia.

A 20” will have LESS aero drag…. Sidewall is more aerodynamic then rim. The 20” is less efficient as it is an AT tire not a “highway” tire.

 

[ColeAK]

I think you are referring to large rims with low profile tires. The 22s are not low profile, the sidewalls are over 5 inches, actually bigger than the sidewalls on my Jeep GC with 20 inch rims that rides fine.

5” on a 22” is definitely low profile. Diameter 10” of tire and 22” of rim. The general rule of thumb for trucks is should be closer to 50/50. Max 17” rim for 33’s, max 18” rim for 35”, max rim 20” for a 38”. Tire size for a 22” should be more like a 40-44” to not be considered low profile. But Hakka 44’s only fit a 17” rim.

 

[JimmyEV]

I'm on the list to get my pickup in March/April, they say.

But they're all out of 21" wheels and I need your help in responding to the guide.

He said that they can offer a 22 inch or a 20 inch.

And he said that EITHER of them will decrease my range by 5 to 10%, which I found startling.

From what I can tell reading the threads here, the 22 inch rides better on streets (I'm not going to go off road, but I will be driving in snow).

Should I wait (for who knows how long, they won't tell me) or get the 22 inch wheels (and take the range hit) or is there no real range hit?

Help me understand if you have a sec...

Thanks

If you deal with a lot of bad weather I'd say 20 inch wheels but if that's not an issue I think the 22 inch wheels looks a bit better.