[Junkanoo]

Please show the wipers adapting to the rain (if it does) and show if Amazon Alexa will allow you to change the wiper speed (so you don't have to take your eyes off the road). Thanks.

 

[moi]

Kyle from Out of Spec Reviews has received a R1T and he's going to be reviewing it over a span of a week!

We have just received an electric Rivian R1T pickup to test for a week and in this video we walk you through everything we are going to do with it! Not only do we tell you what to expect, we answer the questions you’ve asked us ahead of time. We also encourage you to put some things you’d like to see in the comment section below.

Watching the “snow and slippery surfaces” review. I noticed can’t see behind you with the tent.

 

[eHauler]

A towing test at normal highways speeds would be great to see. One of my biggest concerns is what real world range is like in a number of different situations known to make it drop.

 

[IThinkFreely]

Watching the “snow and slippery surfaces” review. I noticed can’t see behind you with the tent.

No real surprise there. I would imagine you can pull up the rear camera on the screen while driving?

 

[moi]

I suppose you can though I can’t imagine doing that permanent rearview mirror.

❓Anyone with roof-mounted tent yet? Appreciate thoughts or feedbacks on mounting the tent on the roof. Overall height? How that might affect driving/steering/balance? Losing sky view vs rear view, etc.

 

[R99]

Here are their videos of the R1T in the snow and review about the camp speaker.

 

[JimmyEV]

Here are the latest videos Out of Spec Reviews has shared about the R1T. One video focuses on towing and the other is a range test.

 

[sciencegeek]

The range test results are great. It's on the 20" with AT tires. 290 miles, freeway at 72 with a little bit of surface streets and 55 mph. (67 mph average). Very encouraging!

 

[EaglesPDX]

Kyle can't stop raving about it. The 70 mile test and not on the most efficient tires. Looks like it will get the 300 mile at 70 which is 20% better than the Model 3 for 70mph vs. EPA.

The air compressor and hose are nice. Is that standard?

Cool you can put it in FWD mode which is all that's needed for day to day.

Now can I get 7' fishing rods diagonal in the bed?

 

[camaroz1985]

Range test is seriously making me consider switching from the max pack to the large pack.

 

[sciencegeek]

What was your motivation / use case for the Max pack?

 

[O. horridus]

Kyle can't stop raving about it. The 70 mile test and not on the most efficient tires. Looks like it will get the 300 mile at 70 which is 20% better than the Model 3 for 70mph vs. EPA.

He set the cruise control at 73 mph. I'm not completely clear why, as he said he was going to test at 70 mph. Something about his GPS was telling him that maybe the speedometer wasn't correct? I've been using GPS extensively since even before they turned off SA, and I'm not sure I would trust a consumer-grade GPS receiver to measure speed accurately. He didn't give any details of how he made this measurement.

 

[EaglesPDX]

I've been using GPS extensively since even before they turned off SA, and I'm not sure I would trust a consumer-grade GPS receiver to measure speed accurately.

I use the GPS also as I put on oversized tires on the Tesla and my 70 is really 67. The radar speed displays agree with the GPS.

 

[camaroz1985]

What was your motivation / use case for the Max pack?

For ease of our monthly trips and annual trips. Based on the consumption numbers OSM was getting (2.33 mi/kWh in conserve, which is what I would use on the long trips) the difference would have been minimal, maybe 40-60 minutes on an 8 hour trip. I can tolerate that for a savings of $10k. My kids always want to stop more often anyway. Improvements/additions to the charging networks are only going to make that better as well.

The other need was for towing. That is going to be tough for some of the longer tows I do to more remote areas. Again, though the difference between Max and Large should not be as drastic as I once thought. I am waiting on their towing review to be published. They showed a picture of the R1T towing what looked like a 20 ft enclosed trailer with a Model 3 in it. That is probably a thousand or so pounds more than my heaviest tow, but it looked like a similar v-nose to what I would be towing, so should be fairly comparable. If those numbers come in the 1-1.1 mi/kWh range, I will make the switch. Again improvements/additions to the charging networks should help ease the pains of towing as well, though I can imagine it may be a while until some of the areas I go to see any movement on that front.

My only other consideration was with battery degradation as I plan to keep the truck 8-10 years. I will be using the daily 70% charge limit most of the time, with only going to 85% one or two trips a month, and 100% one or two trips a year (might have to be a little more depending on the towing numbers). The only times I would use fast charging would be on those trips. I don't think that should be too bad for battery life.

 

[EaglesPDX]

I am waiting on their towing review to be published.

Several towing reviews of Rivian out there. 50% loss of range towing is going to be the rule of thumb for any EV, probably same with ICE. I'll just make it to coast with 10% reserve, 93 miles and #5k boat tow.

Always get the max battery you can afford, towing or not.

 

[camaroz1985]

Several towing reviews of Rivian out there. 50% loss of range towing is going to be the rule of thumb for any EV, probably same with ICE. I'll just make it to coast with 10% reserve, 93 miles and #5k boat tow.

Always get the max battery you can afford, towing or not.

Can afford, and want to pay are two very different things.

I know there have been some towing reviews, but more information is better. OSM also seems to focus on numbers which, to my analytical brain is more beneficial than ability to tow over the Rockies. 50% loss is what I would expect and I am factoring for more than that (2.33 to 1-1.1 mi/kWh, which I think could be more accurate for Conserve to Towing modes). I know it is similar to the reduction you see on an ICE vehicle, and a coast to coast trip is possible, but I am trying to figure out my uses, where it would be a couple 100 mile round trip with not so many charging opportunities. Most of them are acceptable, but in one extreme case would add about 2 hours on a 6 hour tow when you look at the large pack to the max pack (where the large was already adding a couple hours compared to an ICE truck, basically doubling the trip time for the large pack R1T vs an ICE truck). That is a bit much, but it is also a trip I haven't taken before, but have been wanting to do. Maybe I borrow a buddy's truck for that trip if I take it, or put my car in someone else's trailer if they have room.

So I am weighing these edge use cases, vs the my typical use case. Originally this had me leaning toward Max Pack, but given more information and some deeper thought I am now leaning toward Large pack.

 

[EaglesPDX]

Can afford, and want to pay are two very different things.

A distinction without a difference for me, I can't afford it <grin>.

100 mile round trip towing. You'd need 400 mile range to account for using 90% (not going below 10% charge) when leaving from home on 100% and then 80% of range leaving from fast DC charger at 90% (the final 10% takes a long time to charge and keeping same 10% reserve) on the way home. That would be 90% of 50% and 80% of 50% respectively.

I think the Rivian's largest battery does 400?

 

[camaroz1985]

A distinction without a difference for me, I can't afford it <grin>.

100 mile round trip towing. You'd need 400 mile range to account for using 90% (not going below 10% charge) when leaving from home on 100% and then 80% of range leaving from fast DC charger at 90% (the final 10% takes a long time to charge and keeping same 10% reserve) on the way home. That would be 90% of 50% and 80% of 50% respectively.

I think the Rivian's largest battery does 400?

That's what they estimate now. Who knows what it will really be. I was just using ABRP with adjusted consumption to do my "simulations".

I'm not saying I need to make my trips on a single charge, its just a lot of added time. Of course the difference between the two battery packs isn't that much when compared to each other even in most of my towing situations (as long as my assumption is reasonably accurate). I could also adapt my travel style for race weekends. Maybe go an evening early, get a spot at a nearby campground if there is no hookups at the venue (track, hillclimb, etc) and charge up fully there so at least I leave for home with a full charge too. That could take some time out, as I could plan to arrive with 10% or so instead of needing enough to get back to the nearest charger. All things to consider, but I am still leaning toward the large pack now. That's something new for me as until this week I was max pack or bust.

 

[sciencegeek]

Remember that the R1 battery packs are so large that you will not be able to go from (almost) empty to 100% on an L2 charger overnight. The Large pack will take ca. 20 hours to charge from 5% to 100%; the Max pack will take ca. 26 hours.