We need a large vehicle for our family of 5 with car seats, strollers, luggage, and often other family members. Sadly there aren’t any EVs that meet that need presently. Plus you can buy a lifetime of gas when you pay $23K for a vehicle that would be $100K new. That being said, I can’t wait for the Escalade ESV EV with Super Cruise.Just puzzled by the dichotomy of purchasing a hugely inefficient gas vehicle while waiting for an EV. Kind of like going to an all-you-can-eat barbeque the week before you commit to being vegan.
Not sure I agree with this. Assuming that there is a need for larger vehicle, what choice is there right now but an ICE SUV?Just puzzled by the dichotomy of purchasing a hugely inefficient gas vehicle while waiting for an EV. Kind of like going to an all-you-can-eat barbeque the week before you commit to being vegan.
I would love to think there will be battery technology breakthroughs any day now, but if the development of the 4680 batteries Tesla is working on shows us anything, that is that incremental gains are going to take time. Tesla is still working on the logistics/manufacturing of the 4680s despite hoping that they would have them deployed by now.As fast as battery technology will be changing, it could be just a few years before ionic materials as being developed by QuantumScape or something of the sort is capable of the 700 mile range (speculation).
We are in the horseless carriage era of EV vehicles... charging infrastructure not yet in line, is the same as transitioning from horse and buggy to the horseless carriage and the need for gas stations.... Why would someone invest in a gas station with only 10 cars in the city?
That being said, it could be a whole new ball game in a few short years and the possibility of upgrading to better technology in the future, With Rivian's removable battery pack, there could be greater possibilities... I'll wait
I'll stay with the 300 mile range because I really don't enjoy 8 days of driving to Sedona and back for vacation.... I'll fly, rent a vehicle, enjoy the stay, come home in 10 hours flying up and back.
I live in a florida city, I'm getting the Rivian for it's performance appeal more than it's off road appeal... We have hundreds of jacked up 4wd trucks running around our flat little city with great roads... I'm sure their biggest use for all that truck is possibly going over a 8" curb or 6" of water after a rain.
2024-2025 IMO would be pretty good. I could see it taking until more like 2030.The current "best guesses" about manufacturing at commercial scale is 2024-2025. Lots of companies have built solid state in a lab setting or at tiny scale (or with exceptionally intolerant charging conditions), but no one is close to commercial viability.
Could be. As I pointed out, since nobody is actually on the cusp of manufacture it's all guesswork.2024-2025 IMO would be pretty good. I could see it taking until more like 2030.
Tesla produced it's first electric vehicle in 2008. It is now 2021 and they produced only 300,000 EVs in the US in 2020.
Even if you go with the year Tesla came out with the Model S (2012), it still has taken quite awhile just to ramp up to this level.
NextGen batteries, if they are even successful, are probably years away from being in cars/trucks.
Well the Max Pack will cost you another $10K factor that in your decision, and if enough trucks and SUV's phase out the Federal Government Rebate and if you state has one also which could be 10-14K Federal, 4K in my state, Colorado, I may be looking at at $24-$28K increase for the wait? Nah, I'll take the 300, which tested out at 317 with the government last week.Rivians largest battery pack, the 180 kWh option with 400+ miles of EPA-estimated range, will be available January 2022. About 7 months after launch, when Rivian originally said the max pack would be delivered along with other battery variants available at the same time. Knowing this, how many of you are still waiting on the max pack?
$10k for a feature that I would utilize on less than 1% of my travels does not seem worth it.Knowing this, how many of you are still waiting on the max pack?