Others have questioned this. FWIW, one response I read, and asked for elaboration, from a source that has been to the Rivian plant, drove the R1T and spoke with Rivian employees, indicated the charge rate is currently software limited and there plans for it to get better.The only unknown is why the truck won’t charge at a higher rate and consistent ramp.
I think that was the gain for the trailer brakes.They had it set at 5/10.
Right! My bad. Remembered it incorrectly. Thank you.I think that was the gain for the trailer brakes.
I never knew that - thanks for the post. That really does put things into perspective! It's actually amazing to think how efficient these trucks really are. 314mi of range of a heavy vehicle for 4 gallons of gas. I'd get about 1/3 of that with my little 4-banger Subaru Baja. Puts a smile on my face.For people surprised at the high loss of range/battery percent SOC.. keep in mind 1 gal of gas = 33.7kWh. So the R1T's 135kWh battery is only equivalent to 4 gallons of gasoline.
Put 4 gal of gas in your favorite V8 pickup truck (which still has way less hp/torque than the R1T) an see how far you make it towing 8.5K lbs uphill at 60mph in the winter
I wish they would mention those facts on the post-tow wrapup video.
Check their youtube channel. They have done the same test on a lot of gas and diesel trucks.It would be instructive to see the results for the same towing test using an ICE. I bet the drop in gas mileage going up is pretty dramatic. The braking and down shifting going down will be a bit annoying.
I think this is a little misleading. While gasoline may have a 33.7 kWh of energy density, the combustion engine is only about 30-35% efficient in creating usable energy by the car, with the balance energy available gasoline going to waste heat.I never knew that - thanks for the post. That really does put things into perspective! It's actually amazing to think how efficient these trucks really are. 314mi of range of a heavy vehicle for 4 gallons of gas. I'd get about 1/3 of that with my little 4-banger Subaru Baja. Puts a smile on my face.
And let’s not forget that the ICE is spewing toxic crap into the air we breath!I think this is a little misleading. While gasoline may have a 33.7 kWh of energy density, the combustion engine is only about 30-35% efficient in creating usable energy by the car, with the balance energy available gasoline going to waste heat.
No one mentioned that when they ACCELERATED SO HARD that they lost the chase truck THAT USED A BUNCH OF THE BATTERY!
Let me summarize the above link 2022 Tundra Vs 2021 F150 HybridIt would be instructive to see the results for the same towing test using an ICE.
Yes, but the problem is that as far as I can tell they don't present the results in the way we need to make a comparison. I would like to see a table like this comparing all the vehicles they've tested, along with the Rivian. But I had to go through that whole video just to get four numbers - I'm not going to do that for all the other comparisons.Check their youtube channel. They have done the same test on a lot of gas and diesel trucks.
I would love to see all trims of the f150 side by side (hybrid, lighting, gas, and diesel)Let me summarize the above link 2022 Tundra Vs 2021 F150 Hybrid
These are the numbers from their tests along with the timestamp where they presented the numbers.
2022 Tundra:
MPG: 24 (@time 14:05)
MPG when towing: 12.4 (@time 22:14)
Range reduction when towing = 48%
2021 F150 Hybrid:
MPG: 36 (@time 22:14)
MPG when towing: 11.8 (@time 23:15)
Range reduction when towing = 63%
TFL says that "both trucks did better than expected"
So why does everyone complain about Rivian's towing, when Rivian gets the same sort of range reduction when towing as other leading vehicles?
Yes, but the problem is that as far as I can tell they don't present the results in the way we need to make a comparison. I would like to see a table like this comparing all the vehicles they've tested, along with the Rivian. But I had to go through that whole video just to get four numbers - I'm not going to do that for all the other comparisons.
I think it’s a combination of factors.So why does everyone complain about Rivian's towing, when Rivian gets the same sort of range reduction when towing as other leading vehicles?