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The Hummer SUV was revealed on the weekend and to me it looks so much better than the pickup version.

The info about it so far is:

  • Release date: 2023 (as 2024 model)
  • Price: $79,995 (EV2), $89,995 (EV2X), $99,995 (EV3X), $105,595 (Edition 1)
  • Extreme Off-Road package: $5,000
  • Power: 830 hp (Edition 1/EV3X)
  • 3 motor setup (Edition 1/EV3X)
  • 0-60: 3.5 seconds
  • 4 wheel steering
  • Turning circle: 35.4 feet (10.8 meters)
  • 9-inch less wheelbase than the pickup truck
  • Infinity Roof with removable Sky Panels and I-Bar
  • Unique 18-inch wheels and 35-inch-OD Goodyear Wrangler Territory MT tires
  • Underbody armor and rock sliders
  • UltraVision with underbody cameras7 (front- and rear-facing with wash system)
  • Front eLocker and rear virtual lockers
  • Heavy-duty ball-spline half shafts

HUMMER EV SUV
Wheelbase (in. / mm):126.7 / 3218
Vehicle length w/o spare (in. / mm):196.8 / 4999.5
Width w/o mirrors (in. / mm):86.5 / 2196
Width w/ mirrors (in. / mm):93.7 / 2380
Max ground clearance (in. / mm):16.0 / 406
Front overhang (in. / mm):34.7 / 881
Rear overhang w/o spare (in. / mm):35.5/ 900.5
Max approach angle^ (deg.):49.6
Max departure angle^ w/o spare (deg.):49.0
Max breakover angle^ (deg.):34.4
Max water fording depth^ (in. / mm):32 / 813
Track width (in. / mm):73.3 / 1863 (front and rear)
Turning circle, with available 4 Wheel Steer (ft. / m):35.4 / 10.8
Suspension travel (in. / mm):13 / 330 (front and rear)

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And they're sticking with a 300-mile battery.
Same situation as Rivian, shorter wheelbase means less room for battery pack. The SUV Hummer has 20 modules, the SUT will have 24 modules (350 miles). I have the Hummer SUT reserved and will be sticking with that. I will get my wife an R1S Explorer, she does not drive off road.

GM has indicated the off-road package on the SUV will lower the range by 20 miles. Different wheels/tires, plus battery shield and rock sliders/running boards that add weight. The SUT is estimated at 350miles with all those accessories.

So it will be interesting to see how the Rivian EPA numbers come out based on wheel/tire choices and off-road package or not.
 

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For many, I think a big reason for going with the HUMMER EV SUV versus other capable electric SUVs (ex. R1S) will be aftermarket support.

Would that make any R1S reservation holders here switch?
 

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Really cool vehicle but not for my taste. Thrilled that more and more ICE companies are embracing EV.
 

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Check out this video I saw on t he Hummer Chat Forum. The trail maps feature is really cool, it is about 16 minutes into the video.

 

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Same situation as Rivian, shorter wheelbase means less room for battery pack. The SUV Hummer has 20 modules, the SUT will have 24 modules (350 miles). I have the Hummer SUT reserved and will be sticking with that. I will get my wife an R1S Explorer, she does not drive off road.

GM has indicated the off-road package on the SUV will lower the range by 20 miles. Different wheels/tires, plus battery shield and rock sliders/running boards that add weight. The SUT is estimated at 350miles with all those accessories.

So it will be interesting to see how the Rivian EPA numbers come out based on wheel/tire choices and off-road package or not.
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The R1S we ordered is for my wife. I drive to/from the train station and take the train to work.
For many, I think a big reason for going with the HUMMER EV SUV versus other capable electric SUVs (ex. R1S) will be aftermarket support.

Would that make any R1S reservation holders here switch?
By the time the Hummer is released, two years from now, you'll have had an opportunity to see what Rivian's support looks like. You'll also be comparing the 2023 release of the Hummer to whatever Rivian is doing in two years. The problem with all of these sneak peeks into the future is that the market will have changed appreciably by the time it actually happens. Had Rivian hit their initial goals they'd be prepping a new model with a full year head start on the competition. They'll still be first out of the gate but then the market will start to play catch-up.
 

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By the time the Hummer is released, two years from now, you'll have had an opportunity to see what Rivian's support looks like. You'll also be comparing the 2023 release of the Hummer to whatever Rivian is doing in two years. The problem with all of these sneak peeks into the future is that the market will have changed appreciably by the time it actually happens. Had Rivian hit their initial goals they'd be prepping a new model with a full year head start on the competition. They'll still be first out of the gate but then the market will start to play catch-up.
The Hummer SUT truck comes out this fall, just a few months after R1T, and well before the Cybertruck.
 

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Check out this video I saw on t he Hummer Chat Forum. The trail maps feature is really cool, it is about 16 minutes into the video.

Some more videos of the Hummer SUV. I think GMC did a great job modernizing the look of previous Hummers. I think it's price and style is going to attract a different buyer than the R1S but as far as specs go it'll be fun to see them side by side off-road.

 

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The Hummer brand just isn’t for me; too bro-ey and gratuitous. But good brands shouldn’t be for everyone.
I totally agree.

The R1S will be great for folks looking for a fresh start but still enjoy most of the traditional SUV things we've been used to. Aside from the powertrain of course. That said, it will be interesting to see what Rivian owner demographics will be like and how folks come off.
 

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I looked at the Hummer EV SUV and I was turned away by the smaller size, the absurd price tag, and the lower range. I simply do not see what an off-road vehicle I'll be using 95% of the time on-road will do for me that a Rivian cannot do at 20k cheaper and much more refined and functional.

I think GM is really missing the mark here but that is just my thought. I guess it's a great over-compensation vehicle but it's lacking on so many areas...I wasn't interested once I started looking it over.

I'll also pass on any GM vehicle that goes from concept to being done in 18 months...simply don't trust them...

Rivian, on the other hand, has been working their vehicles in real-world environments for some time now. I'm impressed by that as they are following the Tesla model and I think that is the best way to go.

I put a deposit in the for the Rivian with no hesitation...I'm hoping there is a fix for the no Apple CarPlay and Waze...that could be a deal breaker in the end....but I'm hoping it's not. I have no idea why I cannot use the apps I want to use...
 

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I looked at the Hummer EV SUV and I was turned away by the smaller size, the absurd price tag, and the lower range. I simply do not see what an off-road vehicle I'll be using 95% of the time on-road will do for me that a Rivian cannot do at 20k cheaper and much more refined and functional.

I think GM is really missing the mark here but that is just my thought. I guess it's a great over-compensation vehicle but it's lacking on so many areas...I wasn't interested once I started looking it over.

I'll also pass on any GM vehicle that goes from concept to being done in 18 months...simply don't trust them...

Rivian, on the other hand, has been working their vehicles in real-world environments for some time now. I'm impressed by that as they are following the Tesla model and I think that is the best way to go.

I put a deposit in the for the Rivian with no hesitation...I'm hoping there is a fix for the no Apple CarPlay and Waze...that could be a deal breaker in the end....but I'm hoping it's not. I have no idea why I cannot use the apps I want to use...
Second that except the apple comment
I think RIVIAN will exceed in every way

Not the old dog
The only one with 4 motors
Except the one with hub motors
Did anyone catch the fine print
DO NOT SUBMERGE THE HUB MOTORS
are you kidding me
I boat a lot
How can they sell a vehicle that can't handle a little water
In Phoenix we get deep flooded roads during the Monsoons
So I can't drive during the Monsoon season
WE ARE SO LUCKY TO BE EARLY OWNERS OF THE BEST 4X4 TRUCK BUILT SO FAR
(I hope) 22 days left
OMG
 

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I looked at the Hummer EV SUV and I was turned away by the smaller size, the absurd price tag, and the lower range. I simply do not see what an off-road vehicle I'll be using 95% of the time on-road will do for me that a Rivian cannot do at 20k cheaper and much more refined and functional.

I think GM is really missing the mark here but that is just my thought. I guess it's a great over-compensation vehicle but it's lacking on so many areas...I wasn't interested once I started looking it over.

I'll also pass on any GM vehicle that goes from concept to being done in 18 months...simply don't trust them...

Rivian, on the other hand, has been working their vehicles in real-world environments for some time now. I'm impressed by that as they are following the Tesla model and I think that is the best way to go.

I put a deposit in the for the Rivian with no hesitation...I'm hoping there is a fix for the no Apple CarPlay and Waze...that could be a deal breaker in the end....but I'm hoping it's not. I have no idea why I cannot use the apps I want to use...
To GM's credit I'm seeing a lot photos of their prototypes across the country so they're definitely putting in the work for testing. But the short timeline is an eyebrow raiser for sure.
 

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Second that except the apple comment
I think RIVIAN will exceed in every way

Not the old dog
The only one with 4 motors
Except the one with hub motors
Did anyone catch the fine print
DO NOT SUBMERGE THE HUB MOTORS
are you kidding me
I boat a lot
How can they sell a vehicle that can't handle a little water
In Phoenix we get deep flooded roads during the Monsoons
So I can't drive during the Monsoon season
WE ARE SO LUCKY TO BE EARLY OWNERS OF THE BEST 4X4 TRUCK BUILT SO FAR
(I hope) 22 days left
OMG
you're saying the hummer has the hub motor issue? I was unaware of that. One of the biggest selling points for me with the Rivian is the up and coming 400 mile battery. That range is awesome!
 
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