[themorey]

Yesterday RJ Scaringe replied to a tweet asking for Rivian app features like climate temperature selection, open tailgate trunk/frunk, state of charge adjustment, charge scheduling and gear guard review.

Scaringe says all those features will be coming soon.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1565880938147549186

Just for clarity, his tweet does NOT say they are coming soon...only that they are coming.

 

[iansriv]

Sometime after 2022.

 

[Jorge746]

Makes sense, Tesla’s app was barebones in 2019 compared to now; iirc it didn’t do much more than the Rivian app does now. It makes sense that Rivian would push these functions out eventually, there’s no vehicle upgrades needed.

 

[thebishman]

I wish someone would ask him via Twitter, and he would reply of course, how he can justify not offering his customers the option of being able to use Apple CarPlay in Rivian vehicles when it’s available on >90% of all other new products, even the least expensive.

Also: how is someone supposed to listen to Sirius when there’s a lack of cell signal.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

I wish someone would ask him via Twitter, and he would reply of course, how he can justify not offering his customers the option of being able to use Apple CarPlay in Rivian vehicles when it’s available on >90% of all other new products, even the least expensive.

Also: how is someone supposed to listen to Sirius when there’s a lack of cell signal.

He has said he thinks Rivian can do better than CarPlay. Of course they currently don’t…. But that’s what they’ve said.

If you’re trying to listen to Sirius-exclusive talk stations I cant help you. If it’s general talk stuff then try HD radio. If it’s music you want then download it to your phone. Sirius music is the worst. May as well listen to music through a rotary phone.

 

[thebishman]

He has said he thinks Rivian can do better than CarPlay. Of course they currently don’t…. But that’s what they’ve said.

If you’re trying to listen to Sirius-exclusive talk stations I cant help you. If it’s general talk stuff then try HD radio. If it’s music you want then download it to your phone. Sirius music is the worst. May as well listen to music through a rotary phone.

I am old enough to make my own choices as to what to listen to, thank you and when you’re in the middle of a national forest without radio and/or cell signal, and perhaps want to listen to the news or varied types of music not embedded on your phone Sirius is indispensable.

Further, not allowing for the owner to exercise the choice of say running Waze on ACP (and multiple other apps) versus using the OEM Nav system seems to be incredibly arrogant.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

Further, not allowing for the owner to exercise the choice of say running Waze on ACP (and multiple other apps) versus using the OEM Nav system seems to be incredibly arrogant.

Hmm CEO of tech company. How could they possibly be arrogant? I never would have expected that!

 

[SteinR1T]

I am old enough to make my own choices as to what to listen to, thank you and when you’re in the middle of a national forest without radio and/or cell signal, and perhaps want to listen to the news or varied types of music not embedded on your phone Sirius is indispensable.

Further, not allowing for the owner to exercise the choice of say running Waze on ACP (and multiple other apps) versus using the OEM Nav system seems to be incredibly arrogant.

You might be old enough to make your own choices, but it's a bad choice. Honestly, Spotify works amazing with Rivian and you can download things to listen to when you're "in the middle of a national forest". Also, imagine Waze as just an app on the Rivian dashboard and using it without you're phone....thats where vehicle infotainment is headed. In a couple years, people will be like "I can't believe you're still using your phone to listen to music in your car".

 

[atebit]

Also, imagine Waze as just an app on the Rivian dashboard and using it without you're phone....thats where vehicle infotainment is headed.

Yeah, one day there will be as many 3d party apps for Rivian’s infotainment as there were for Toyota Entune.

Wait…

 

[TucsonST]

You might be old enough to make your own choices, but it's a bad choice. Honestly, Spotify works amazing with Rivian and you can download things to listen to when you're "in the middle of a national forest". Also, imagine Waze as just an app on the Rivian dashboard and using it without you're phone....thats where vehicle infotainment is headed. In a couple years, people will be like "I can't believe you're still using your phone to listen to music in your car".

That would be the best option ever, IMHO. Imagine if you could download and run Android apps, like Waze, from Google Play, right on your Rivian infotainment system. Just give it the same ability as a standard Android tablet. I think that would eliminate a majority of complaints about lack of Car Play and Android Auto support and would be fast way to roll out capabilities to Rivian owners without a huge investment in app development. One can dream anyway...

 

[racekarl]

You might be old enough to make your own choices, but it's a bad choice. Honestly, Spotify works amazing with Rivian and you can download things to listen to when you're "in the middle of a national forest". Also, imagine Waze as just an app on the Rivian dashboard and using it without you're phone....thats where vehicle infotainment is headed. In a couple years, people will be like "I can't believe you're still using your phone to listen to music in your car".

No, your choice is bad. Two can play this stupid game...

 

[thebishman]

You might be old enough to make your own choices, but it's a bad choice. Honestly, Spotify works amazing with Rivian and you can download things to listen to when you're "in the middle of a national forest". Also, imagine Waze as just an app on the Rivian dashboard and using it without you're phone....thats where vehicle infotainment is headed. In a couple years, people will be like "I can't believe you're still using your phone to listen to music in your car".

Again, you miss the point completely: if YOU want to use Spotify and use the apps that only Rivian allow you to use, that’s totally fine; more power to you.

But many, many others including this guy wants to be able to use SXM which is available built in in the vast majority of new vehicles sold in the US, as well as ACP, etc. because the apps that I want to use now are already available whilst the Rivian offers are rudimentary currently. It’s simply a question of choice versus a manufacturer deciding what is in my ‘best’ interests. It boggles the mind that 90% of new vehicles offer the owner the option of using AA/ACP and yet Rivian thinks only it knows what’s best. 🤷

 

[SteinR1T]

Again, you miss the point completely: if YOU want to use Spotify and use the apps that only Rivian allow you to use, that’s totally fine; more power to you.

But many, many others including this guy wants to be able to use SXM which is available built in in the vast majority of new vehicles sold in the US, as well as ACP, etc. because the apps that I want to use now are already available whilst the Rivian offers are rudimentary currently. It’s simply a question of choice versus a manufacturer deciding what is in my ‘best’ interests. It boggles the mind that 90% of new vehicles offer the owner the option of using AA/ACP and yet Rivian thinks only it knows what’s best. 🤷

You complain about Rivian being arrogant and not giving "choice", but I don't remember being forced to buy it. How long have you had your Rivian and how often have you used the Rivian navigation? Have you ever tried Spotify? What are your specific complaints about them vs Apple carplay? You're saying you want xyz without any real justification except 90% of other vehicles do. 90% of other vehicles don't go 0-60 in 2.9 seconds or have adjustable air suspension or have their own in-house vehicle software thats completely unique to that manufacturer. Are you on Hyundai's EV forums saying it's mind boggling the Ioniq doesn't go 0-60 in 3 seconds....no because you want a Rivian. That sounds like the definition of choice to me.

 

[atebit]

@SteinR1T , do you really think it’s scalable for 3d party developers to develop their apps for every. single. manufacturer’s. brand of infotainment system?

 

[SteinR1T]

@SteinR1T , do you really think it’s scalable for 3d party developers to develop their apps for every. single. manufacturer’s. brand of infotainment system?

Simple answer, yes. Most infotainment hardware is already fairly interchangeable. Many headunits come preloaded with apps. The same question was asked about apps for different manufacturers of phones...and again for apple carplay/android auto. The lomg term answer isn't for the app developer, but the manufacturer needs to create a software "adapter" for the app interaction. Honestly I don't even remember all the current 3rd party apps on the Rivian (it's not many), but I imagine it has more to do with software agreements and maybe some more time for Rivian to develop its infotainment.

I'm glad the vehicle is available now so I can enjoy driving it vs waiting for everyone else's "deal breaker" excuses of why they won't buy one. Not saying there aren't ways to improve it...but does anyone remember the Tesla Roadster? I bet that needed a lot of improvements too. For Rivian's FIRST production vehicle....its solid.

 

[paulcoble4827]

He has said he thinks Rivian can do better than CarPlay. Of course they currently don’t…. But that’s what they’ve said.

If you’re trying to listen to Sirius-exclusive talk stations I cant help you. If it’s general talk stuff then try HD radio. If it’s music you want then download it to your phone. Sirius music is the worst. May as well listen to music through a rotary phone.

At least in theory, I "can" wake up tomorrow good looking and rich. It's just unlikely that my "can" will become a "will" or even better, become a "have done so".

Of course Rivian "can" do better than Apple Carplay. They just haven't "done" better, nor is there any present evidence to suggest that they "will" do better.

And in the meantime, Mr. Scaringe, your loyal customers, including me, are waiting for you to either "do better" than Carplay or stop kidding around with us and simply offer Carplay . . . like everybody else does.

 

[themorey]

IMO the lack of ACP and AA has more to do with the Amazon agreement and investment $$$$. It's not difficult to imagine that Amazon's investment came with strings attached like only Echo Auto shall be allowed.

 

[R1T-8171]

Again, you miss the point completely: if YOU want to use Spotify and use the apps that only Rivian allow you to use, that’s totally fine; more power to you.

But many, many others including this guy wants to be able to use SXM which is available built in in the vast majority of new vehicles sold in the US, as well as ACP, etc. because the apps that I want to use now are already available whilst the Rivian offers are rudimentary currently. It’s simply a question of choice versus a manufacturer deciding what is in my ‘best’ interests. It boggles the mind that 90% of new vehicles offer the owner the option of using AA/ACP and yet Rivian thinks only it knows what’s best. 🤷

Manufactures pay for you to be able to use CarPlay. Tesla does‘t have it so Rivian feels they don’t need it. Once one of them do it, they both will. I am in the automotive industry. When Chevy discontinued free maintenance, Ford followed and Ram shortly after. Rather than separating themselves from the competition, they cut cost and fell in line.

 

[oldchundy]

Again, you miss the point completely: if YOU want to use Spotify and use the apps that only Rivian allow you to use, that’s totally fine; more power to you.

But many, many others including this guy wants to be able to use SXM which is available built in in the vast majority of new vehicles sold in the US, as well as ACP, etc. because the apps that I want to use now are already available whilst the Rivian offers are rudimentary currently. It’s simply a question of choice versus a manufacturer deciding what is in my ‘best’ interests. It boggles the mind that 90% of new vehicles offer the owner the option of using AA/ACP and yet Rivian thinks only it knows what’s best. 🤷

Just another opinion. Sirius XM sucks compared to Spotify