[eHauler]

He likes it because it's smooth and shiny like his head...

Or he just wants Elon to let him know the best time to buy/sell Tesla stock ahead of the masses.

 

[Trip]

“Huge leap in the future”.

Ok, because it’s futuristic looking? The CT does nothing that is ground breaking other than being weird looking. The Hummer, R1T and F150 electric all do the same things the CT does plus more considering the CT is now biting off the hummers crab drive

 

[TessP100D]

CONFIRMED (again).
Still FUGLY as hell.
Every time I see this, the R1T looks even better (both inside and out)...
So much more refinement and features with the R1T.

It does have one advantage. Proposed (prototype) 500 + miles. That bone thing is way better than Rivian.

 

[SANZCO2]

It does have one advantage. Proposed (prototype) 500 + miles. That bone thing is way better than Rivian.

If it actually has 500 mile range.

My first thought a few months ago when Elon came out talking about 500 mile range not being needed was to soften the impact of the Lucid that had a couple of people do 500 miles in real world and pulling back on what the max range that the CT would end up with.

He also canceled the 500 mile Model S version.

 

[RITVT]

It does have one advantage. Proposed (prototype) 500 + miles. That bone thing is way better than Rivian.

Except you can't say anything Tesla Prototypes is actually better than Rivian until we see EPA estimates and VIN numbers from Tesla. Period.
Until then, all smoke and mirrors.

 

[TessP100D]

If it actually has 500 mile range.

My first thought a few months ago when Elon came out talking about 500 mile range not being needed was to soften the impact of the Lucid that had a couple of people do 500 miles in real world and pulling back on what the max range that the CT would end up with.

He also canceled the 500 mile Model S version.

Nobody really knows the actual range of the CT. I think crazy Elon is well….. crazy. He’s working on new battery tech that will allow more range and faster charging, yet he comes out says 300 miles is enough range but only after canceled one vehicle due to lack of range. He’s crazy folks. Crazy.

 

[TessP100D]

Except you can't say anything Tesla Prototypes is actually better than Rivian until we see EPA estimates and VIN numbers from Tesla. Period.
Until then, all smoke and mirrors.

I agree there.

 

[sciencegeek]

How is it possible that that post gets >800,000 likes ?!?

 

[NY_Rob]

Also keep in mind that in order to get the advertised range out of your Tesla (I had a 2021 MY LR AWD for one full year and we still have a 2021 Model 3 LR AWD) you have to keep the speed under 65mph, in warm temps and level roads with no headwinds. So Elon's claim of a one version of the CT having 500mi range would probably only be obtainable under non-real world conditions. In reality, most people would most likely see 425mi or so range. Funny thing is, with my 2017 Bolt (which I owned for 3yrs/44K mi) it was advertised to have 238mi and I was able to get that and more all the time except during the worst part of the winter.

 

[sciencegeek]

Leaving aside environmental differences and different driving styles .... range is determined largely by these vehicle-intrinsic factors:
1. Physics: Weight (and related parameters like wheel/tire size and tread)
2. Physics: Vehicle shape and size (drag)
3. Chemistry: Battery size (larger battery => more weight, so not totally independent), design, and chemistry
4. Software: Battery management software (cold temp management, power draw curves etc)

So I don't see how cybertruck's range can possibly be so much better than the competition; even 400 miles seems ambitious for that sort of vehicle:

1. Can Cybertruck be much lighter than competitors and run on much lighter wheels/tires? No
2. Supposedly it has a favorable drag coefficient of 0.3, but it can't escape the large cross section of a truck, so drag will be similar to Rivian
3. That's just current state of the art
4. By now we know Tesla's software; it's very good but can't work magic where the Cybertruck suddenly gets more miles just because of software.

 

[NY_Rob]

Even if the CT somehow manages to squeeze out 3mi/kWh you would probably need a 175kWh battery to reach 500mi range. That's a huge, heavy, expensive battery pack! Probably never happen...

 

[TessP100D]

Leaving aside environmental differences and different driving styles .... range is determined largely by these vehicle-intrinsic factors:
1. Physics: Weight (and related parameters like wheel/tire size and tread)
2. Physics: Vehicle shape and size (drag)
3. Chemistry: Battery size (larger battery => more weight, so not totally independent), design, and chemistry
4. Software: Battery management software (cold temp management, power draw curves etc)

So I don't see how cybertruck's range can possibly be so much better than the competition; even 400 miles seems ambitious for that sort of vehicle:

1. Can Cybertruck be much lighter than competitors and run on much lighter wheels/tires? No
2. Supposedly it has a favorable drag coefficient of 0.3, but it can't escape the large cross section of a truck, so drag will be similar to Rivian
3. That's just current state of the art
4. By now we know Tesla's software; it's very good but can't work magic where the Cybertruck suddenly gets more miles just because of software.

you like making a lot of assumptions. How nice.