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I'm not really familiar with Atlis but based on these photos and specs, it looks like a really impressive truck.

Has anyone been keeping tabs on Atlis and the XT?

https://insideevs.com/news/341937/atlis-xt-electric-pickup-truck-reveal/
Atlis Motor Vehicle company is a new-ish name on the scene, but it may not be for long.

Atlis says its XT electric pickup truck is among the most capable trucks to ever be revealed. According to the automaker, the truck can be configured to go up to 500 miles on electric by selecting the largest battery pack.

In addition to the long range, the towing capacity is impressive at up to 35,000 pounds. The payload is listed at up to 5,000 pounds, which is equally high.

Atlis XT is considered a full-size truck and, unlike with the Rivian R1T, a 6.5 or 8-foot bed can be selected. Clearly then, this is a larger truck than Rivian's. Its 8-lug wheel design suggests it's a heavy-hauler too.

With this being a proper truck, there are all sorts of configurations. For example, depending on how it's configured, the Atlis XT has a conventional towing ability between 5,000 – 20,000 lbs. The truck has a 5th-wheel tailoring capacity of between 10,000 – 35,000 lbs. Payload capacities would range between 1,000 – 5,000 lbs.

There's a standard crew cab with a shorter bed that offers standard air suspension (independent at all four corners) with 12 inches of ground clearance. But for more extreme use, there's a special “off-road” version with long-travel suspension and 15 inches of clearance.

A dually is reportedly planned too and this would be the heaviest hauler of them all.

Like with Rivian, multiple battery pack sizes will be offered. Atlis says the shortest range XT will still go 300 miles. Other options are for 400 miles of range and the aforementioned 500-mil max range version. Recharging is claimed to take only 15 minutes, though specs and details on this have not been released.

As for performance, 0 to 60 MPH is achieved in 5 seconds. However, even a fully loaded Atlis XT can still accelerate from 0 to 60 MPH in just 18 seconds. Atlis uses what it calls its XP platform on the XT. This setup utilizes 4-independent electric motors, one for each well. So, it's 4WD then.

The interior is rather luxurious looking and can set up to 6 individuals in total.

Though far from reality right now (funding is still not fully secured), Atlis says it hopes to launch the XT sometime in 2020. No pricing information is available at this time though.
 

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I’ve been aware of Atlis for a while now. They throw really big numbers out there— but it seems more like concept and wishes than reality to me. One of the big tells fir me is how fast they claim they can charge the battery pack. The XT claims more range, bigger capacities, and is a significantly larger vehicle than the R1T, so the pack must be HUGE. I’ve listened to RJ talk about the physics that currently limit charging speed, on more than one occasion say “you can only push electrons so fast before you start to degrade the battery”. Unless they have groundbreaking new battery tech they’ve kept under wraps, it looks like Atlis is just blowing smoke IMO. They also don’t seem to be able to land much funding— which means they haven’t been able to convince people in the know that Atlis is on the right (and demonstrable) track... Just my 2¢...
 

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I DO like that frunk gate though!! Very cool and useful as a work area with access to 120V outlets. 😁
 

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When I first saw the Atlis XT I thought “wow, that is perfect”. But the more I looked into it, the more it doesn’t pass the smell test.

If they actually release to market and I can see/touch/drive one, in person, then we’ll talk. But until then, everything about that company screams “scam” to me. The people involved have no experience in bringing products of this scale to market. The way they‘re raising money is dubious, at best. Big investors are avoiding them (unlike Rivian). And they have no tangible products to demonstrate. They’ve also made some extreme assertions about their battery tech and when you dig deeper there are some major asterisks — to the point I would say they are intentionally misleading.
 

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I have a “reservation” on a XT and an R1T. The XT is all smoke and mirrors at the moment. I just don’t think that they will ever come to market. If they do, it will be significantly more expensive than originally expected. I also believe they are over-promising and will under-deliver.
 

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I’ve been aware of Atlis for a while now. They throw really big numbers out there— but it seems more like concept and wishes than reality to me. One of the big tells fir me is how fast they claim they can charge the battery pack. The XT claims more range, bigger capacities, and is a significantly larger vehicle than the R1T, so the pack must be HUGE. I’ve listened to RJ talk about the physics that currently limit charging speed, on more than one occasion say “you can only push electrons so fast before you start to degrade the battery”. Unless they have groundbreaking new battery tech they’ve kept under wraps, it looks like Atlis is just blowing smoke IMO. They also don’t seem to be able to land much funding— which means they haven’t been able to convince people in the know that Atlis is on the right (and demonstrable) track... Just my 2¢...
Funny enough I just saw this article about Atlis getting their batteries bult with help from Media Tech.


According to its press release, this South Korean company produces equipment for battery manufacturing and has experience of more than 30 years in that field. It will be Atlis’ sole supplier for whatever it needs to manufacture its own cells.

Media Tech will help Atlis design, develop, manufacture, install, and calibrate “all machinery comprising the electrode, assembly, and formation lines required for Atlis to create a limited-run prototype battery cell production line.” There’s no information on which sort of battery Atlis intends to manufacture.
 

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I have a “reservation” on a XT and an R1T. The XT is all smoke and mirrors at the moment. I just don’t think that they will ever come to market. If they do, it will be significantly more expensive than originally expected. I also believe they are over-promising and will under-deliver.
Which one did you reserve first?

It helps that Rivian has a lot of backers that really want to get in on the next Tesla.
Are you decided on the R1T or would be open to other EVs set to come out? I know Ford wants to launch an electric F-150 sometime in 2021.
 

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I placed my reservation with Atlis back in 2019, over a year before placing my preorder with Rivian. I was hoping for an EV that could replace my GMC 3500 Crew Cab, Long Bed. That was the goal of Atlis. It looks like Atlis will not deliver, and I will end up with the Rivian. I will still need to have my GMC for hauling (5th wheel and lots of stuff). If I keep the GMC, there are only 3 EV's I would consider and two haven't even been announced.
#1 R1T
#2 EV Jeep Wrangler
#3 EV Corvette C8
 

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I placed my reservation with Atlis back in 2019, over a year before placing my preorder with Rivian. I was hoping for an EV that could replace my GMC 3500 Crew Cab, Long Bed. That was the goal of Atlis. It looks like Atlis will not deliver, and I will end up with the Rivian. I will still need to have my GMC for hauling (5th wheel and lots of stuff). If I keep the GMC, there are only 3 EV's I would consider and two haven't even been announced.
#1 R1T
#2 EV Jeep Wrangler
#3 EV Corvette C8
A concept for the electric Wrangler is apparently going to be debuting in March.

 

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Correct, Jeep mentioned their concept. We will see what that performance looks like. Hopefully, they don't mess with thy styling and capabilities.
 

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Atlis seems to have a lot of overpromise in their marketing. New battery technology, new charging technology, presumably lighter weight battery packs (at some point EVs are like commercial jets where the required fuel calculations include the battery capacity necessary just to carry the massive battery, so there's a point of diminishing return). Greater minds have been working on these issues for a long time. Not saying they can't do it, but if they somehow managed to their vehicle would be the least valuable part of their enterprise.
 

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Correct, Jeep mentioned their concept. We will see what that performance looks like. Hopefully, they don't mess with thy styling and capabilities.
I'd be surprised if the electric Wrangler looks anything but a regular Wrangler.
 
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